Episode #198: In this 3:07 video, Barbara Toens explores the gap between superficial data and deep customer understanding. She argues that knowing demographics isn’t enough and marketers must uncover underlying motivations. Barbara highlights the role of perception and the importance of probing beneath surface-level metrics. This depth enables accurate customer-centric solutions and strategic differentiation.

Episode #198: Barbara Toens, Global CMO at Gantrex, brings her pricing PhD and global B2B experience to this in-depth discussion. She explains how marketing earns its C-Suite seat by ensuring every decision starts with deep customer understanding. Barbara shares best practices for VOC calls, cross-functional alignment, and transforming marketing from a cost center to a growth engine.