Everyone Should Be a PhD of the Customer

Socrates saw the risk more than 2,000 years ago. When written language became a new mode of communication, the concern was not that writing was bad. The concern was that people might start confusing access to information with real understanding. In Plato’s Phaedrus, Socrates tells the story of Theuth, the inventor of writing, who presents writing as a breakthrough for memory and wisdom. King Thamus pushes back. Writing, he says, will not truly strengthen memory. It will create reminders. People will be able to look things up, repeat what has been written, and appear knowledgeable — without necessarily carrying that knowledge inside them.

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(3:07 Summary Video) “Redefining Customer Insight From Familiarity to Understanding”

Episode #198: In this 3:07 video, Barbara Toens explores the gap between superficial data and deep customer understanding. She argues that knowing demographics isn’t enough and marketers must uncover underlying motivations. Barbara highlights the role of perception and the importance of probing beneath surface-level metrics. This depth enables accurate customer-centric solutions and strategic differentiation.

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How Marketing Truly Drives Profitable Growth

Episode #198: Barbara Toens, Global CMO at Gantrex, brings her pricing PhD and global B2B experience to this in-depth discussion. She explains how marketing earns its C-Suite seat by ensuring every decision starts with deep customer understanding. Barbara shares best practices for VOC calls, cross-functional alignment, and transforming marketing from a cost center to a growth engine.

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How Marketing Truly Drives Profitable Growth

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Episode #198: Barbara Toens, Global CMO at Gantrex, brings her pricing PhD and global B2B experience to this in-depth discussion. She explains how marketing earns its C-Suite seat by ensuring every decision starts with deep customer understanding. Barbara shares best practices for VOC calls, cross-functional alignment, and transforming marketing from a cost center to a growth engine.

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CMOs: How to Achieve Success by Thinking Like an Investment Banker

Mariana Cogan, CMO at Hexagon Manufacturing Intelligence, dives deep into her philosophy of achieving marketing success by thinking like an investment banker. She discusses strategic alignment with sales, maximizing the quality of leads, and her human-to-human (H2H) marketing approach. She also highlights innovative tools to boost sales efficiency and drive revenue.

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How to be a CMO in a Rapidly Growing Startup

Melissa Moody, CEO at Matcha with 14 years of experience at Google, shares insights on the evolving role of the CMO. She emphasizes the importance of having a seat at the table and being involved in strategic decision-making. Melissa also highlights the need for marketers to listen to their customers and encourages CMOs to focus on both running the business and changing the business.

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How to be a CMO in a Rapidly Growing Startup

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Melissa Moody, CEO at Matcha with 14 years of experience at Google, shares insights on the evolving role of the CMO. She emphasizes the importance of having a seat at the table and being involved in strategic decision-making. Melissa also highlights the need for marketers to listen to their customers and encourages CMOs to focus on both running the business and changing the business.

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The Most Under-Utilized Insight Gathering Strategy for CMOs

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Ron Carson, a CMO with 25 years of experience working with everything from Silicon Valley startups to multi-billion dollar companies, shares insights on the critical role of representing the voice of the customer and how to leverage the "just ask" approach to discover insights that shape marketing strategies, pipeline penetration, drive renewals, cross-sells, and upsells.

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Content 3.0: Crafting Content Experiences for Enhanced Engagement

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Alex Shevelenko is the CEO of RELAYTO, a content experiences company. With a vast background at companies like Salesforce, SAP, and Microsoft, Alex discusses how to go beyond the limitations of traditional content delivery methods and create interactive customer experiences for better engagement and actions.

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